bsg 4.05 recappery
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boomqueenTop 11 shallow thoughts while watching this ep:
Because apparently I need to squee about the hotness before I can gather my thoughts properly...
11. Gaeta is my current king of snark! And awesome sweaty curly hair.
10. Where's my Lee? I'd rather have some overly talky pilotician action than no Lee at all.
9. So many great one-liners! "singular moment of clarity" and "there are some sins that even your imaginary god cannot forgive" and "anaesthetizing yourself with ambrosia and affairs" and "an angel blazing with the light of god".
8. Hybrid/Leoben is canon now!![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
dionusia is amazingly prescient as ever.
7. Can I hug Helo too? That Pike(?) kid goaded him like crazy into that smackdown. And he just wants to keep the peace! Is it terrible that I love seeing him driven to things he would normally never do? He wants to obey the rules and maintain Kara's friendship so bad but he can't justify it! Big fat callbacks to his moments of anguished self-righteosness in S3 where he saved the poisoned cylons from wiping out their own race and when he fought for the underdogs in dogsville? HUGGGGGGGGS.
6. CKR needs to stop mumbling his goddamn lines--I had to rewind like fifty times because of him. I almost didn't catch his hilarious Kara/Anders shipper moment: "I can see why she's so fond of you" FTW!!!
5. Damn. Kara's eulogy speech was awesome. And tough. And hot.
4. An alliance! 'marry into a cloakroom, and form an alliance with a parcel' [bonus nerd points for name-that-quote]
3. My poor Chief shaved his head! He looks all rugged and broken--a little bit scary and much less teddy-bear like. Never fear: the United F.R.A.C. Front is ready with hugs. Someone needs to make some us Fangirls for Recently Activated Cylons icons soon...for serious
2. I got my Kara/Leoben/Sam sandwich--even if it was only briefly and there were mainly fists and yelling involved (rather than sweaty jealous!sex...)
1. Sweaty pissed off Anders is just about the most fabulously hot thing ever in the history of hot. And there was sooooooo much of sweaty pissed off Anders in this ep! There may have to be picspams of this later...
Slightly more coherent thoughts?
The Kara/Leoben interaction:
The painting 2.0 was hot. Right down to the hand on the waist all possessive-like. I'm almost glad there wasn't any sex this time around, but the charged and creepy energy between them was just awesome and perfect.
And I totally loved the scene later in the brig where she beat his ass and he wore down her defenses once again. Such a frakked up cycle and yet so AWESOME.daybreak777 called it the 'same old cat and mouse' between them, and I agree but it worked for me.
The Leoben/Anders interaction:
That jealousy and confusion as he pulled Leoben away from Kara were awesome. I totally see him wanted to protect Kara from whatever thrall he perceives Leoben as being able to put over on her.
And the smackdown later was YEARS of anger and payback: for New Caprica, for Maelstrom, for Sam's own cylonity. So awesome and so layered.
But all the things Leoben says--they aren't because he knows Sam is a cylon. He's just damn good at pushing people's buttons. He knows the things to say about Kara and Sam's past as a pyramid player and his potential for a bigger role in the fleet's future that will totally mess with Sam's head and make him wonder what Leoben knows.
What on earth is happening to my girl?
I loved that my girl got so much more screen time. And it's a fascinating combination of cocksure leadership strength and panicked schizo fear that she's working right now.
But the fact that she IS so different, that she's so lost and ungrounded, makes her so much harder to follow as my POV character. I can't put myself in her head like I normally can because she doesn't know what's going on in her head. It's disorienting!
I understand that she's NOT the same Kara who relied on fighting and booze and sex to make sense of things, but they haven't really shown us what she's become INSTEAD either. And I find myself going back and forth between missing Kara-the-brash-and-ballsy and puzzling over Kara-the-confused-prophetess.
I thinkwisteria_'s right: it's detachment that I'm feeling. And when I'm used to BURNING WITH OMG!UNDYING PASSION for Kara, it's really weird to feel curious but detached instead.
*misses my girl*
What the show really needs right now
Well, according to the Mr., our bsg is suffering from a lack of space-battles and robot scuffles. Good old fashioned pilots and us vs. them-ness. Maybe a one-off stand-alone episode or two where we could really just enjoy ourselves in the moment, instead of flailing around in ten different interweaving plotlines and wondering where the hell we're all being led.
I would be down for a one-shot. Another 33, or Hand of God, or Flight, or Unfinished Business. One of those that does tie in with bigger story arcs but you can also just sit down and enjoy it for it's own sake. I have a feeling that we won't be getting many of those in S4 and that makes me kind of sad. I like bsg for the Big Ideas too, but sometimes I just want some fun.
ETA: Number of times I used the word awesome in this relatively brief post = 7.
*headdesk*
Because apparently I need to squee about the hotness before I can gather my thoughts properly...
11. Gaeta is my current king of snark! And awesome sweaty curly hair.
10. Where's my Lee? I'd rather have some overly talky pilotician action than no Lee at all.
9. So many great one-liners! "singular moment of clarity" and "there are some sins that even your imaginary god cannot forgive" and "anaesthetizing yourself with ambrosia and affairs" and "an angel blazing with the light of god".
8. Hybrid/Leoben is canon now!
dionusia is amazingly prescient as ever.7. Can I hug Helo too? That Pike(?) kid goaded him like crazy into that smackdown. And he just wants to keep the peace! Is it terrible that I love seeing him driven to things he would normally never do? He wants to obey the rules and maintain Kara's friendship so bad but he can't justify it! Big fat callbacks to his moments of anguished self-righteosness in S3 where he saved the poisoned cylons from wiping out their own race and when he fought for the underdogs in dogsville? HUGGGGGGGGS.
6. CKR needs to stop mumbling his goddamn lines--I had to rewind like fifty times because of him. I almost didn't catch his hilarious Kara/Anders shipper moment: "I can see why she's so fond of you" FTW!!!
5. Damn. Kara's eulogy speech was awesome. And tough. And hot.
4. An alliance! 'marry into a cloakroom, and form an alliance with a parcel' [bonus nerd points for name-that-quote]
3. My poor Chief shaved his head! He looks all rugged and broken--a little bit scary and much less teddy-bear like. Never fear: the United F.R.A.C. Front is ready with hugs. Someone needs to make some us Fangirls for Recently Activated Cylons icons soon...for serious
2. I got my Kara/Leoben/Sam sandwich--even if it was only briefly and there were mainly fists and yelling involved (rather than sweaty jealous!sex...)
1. Sweaty pissed off Anders is just about the most fabulously hot thing ever in the history of hot. And there was sooooooo much of sweaty pissed off Anders in this ep! There may have to be picspams of this later...
Slightly more coherent thoughts?
The Kara/Leoben interaction:
The painting 2.0 was hot. Right down to the hand on the waist all possessive-like. I'm almost glad there wasn't any sex this time around, but the charged and creepy energy between them was just awesome and perfect.
And I totally loved the scene later in the brig where she beat his ass and he wore down her defenses once again. Such a frakked up cycle and yet so AWESOME.
daybreak777 called it the 'same old cat and mouse' between them, and I agree but it worked for me.The Leoben/Anders interaction:
That jealousy and confusion as he pulled Leoben away from Kara were awesome. I totally see him wanted to protect Kara from whatever thrall he perceives Leoben as being able to put over on her.
And the smackdown later was YEARS of anger and payback: for New Caprica, for Maelstrom, for Sam's own cylonity. So awesome and so layered.
But all the things Leoben says--they aren't because he knows Sam is a cylon. He's just damn good at pushing people's buttons. He knows the things to say about Kara and Sam's past as a pyramid player and his potential for a bigger role in the fleet's future that will totally mess with Sam's head and make him wonder what Leoben knows.
What on earth is happening to my girl?
I loved that my girl got so much more screen time. And it's a fascinating combination of cocksure leadership strength and panicked schizo fear that she's working right now.
But the fact that she IS so different, that she's so lost and ungrounded, makes her so much harder to follow as my POV character. I can't put myself in her head like I normally can because she doesn't know what's going on in her head. It's disorienting!
I understand that she's NOT the same Kara who relied on fighting and booze and sex to make sense of things, but they haven't really shown us what she's become INSTEAD either. And I find myself going back and forth between missing Kara-the-brash-and-ballsy and puzzling over Kara-the-confused-prophetess.
I think
wisteria_'s right: it's detachment that I'm feeling. And when I'm used to BURNING WITH OMG!UNDYING PASSION for Kara, it's really weird to feel curious but detached instead.*misses my girl*
What the show really needs right now
Well, according to the Mr., our bsg is suffering from a lack of space-battles and robot scuffles. Good old fashioned pilots and us vs. them-ness. Maybe a one-off stand-alone episode or two where we could really just enjoy ourselves in the moment, instead of flailing around in ten different interweaving plotlines and wondering where the hell we're all being led.
I would be down for a one-shot. Another 33, or Hand of God, or Flight, or Unfinished Business. One of those that does tie in with bigger story arcs but you can also just sit down and enjoy it for it's own sake. I have a feeling that we won't be getting many of those in S4 and that makes me kind of sad. I like bsg for the Big Ideas too, but sometimes I just want some fun.
ETA: Number of times I used the word awesome in this relatively brief post = 7.
*headdesk*
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Date: 2008-05-04 09:42 am (UTC)Helooooo! I volunteer for the hugs too
I'm all for more sweaty Helo&Anders in tank tops ^^
(seriously, is the air con broken on this ship?)
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Date: 2008-05-07 08:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-05-04 10:05 am (UTC)I find the Kara/Leoben dynamic interesting how he can push her and really dig down deep and no what's at the fucked up core of her. The painting was way hot and intimate.
I don't even know how to put all the things that I thought or felt into words about this episode as it would take way to long.
The whole scene with the Chief laying on the bed with his shaved head and crazy eyes while Baltar was talking to him was eerie, comforting, odd, barely continued fury and so many emotions mixing and churning in the Chief and the fact that it was all going on with his eyes as he laid there still and silent was brilliant. I kept waiting for him to jump up and explode.
I did miss my Lee, but I thought it was okay as This was about Kara and the Chief this episode. And I love how on the Demitreus, Gaeta is a little looser and he is totally rocking the curly sweaty hair. And sweaty Helo mmmmm. When Helo and Sharon where talking about how they should meet up with the fleet and not jump tot he cylons I kept waiting for her to bring up Hera. Did they just forget about her?
Next episode I think it'll be Sam who hits the spooled up FTL and makes them jump to the cylons. Can't wait for next week.
But I'd like it if Kara could look a little less strung out and crazy. With the stringy hair I want to give her a bath. But all the murals that she painted in her quarters are beautiful!
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Date: 2008-05-07 08:27 pm (UTC)The quiet and contained Chief fury was pretty freaky too. Still not sure how I feel about him taking Baltar's hand or what that means.
Can't wait for next week too!
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Date: 2008-05-04 10:43 am (UTC)#9 - I got excited when Leoben called her an angel. They're teasing us, you know!
#6 - it rook me a few goes, but he does say it and it was rather swoony
#5 - *nod nod*
#4 - I fail
#2 - bad lighting and brief shots, but Sam did go all 'husband' and it was good.
#1 - I remember when I used to fret that Sam wouldn't work the tanks like he did his sleeveless tops. I was wrong. I kinda want to take a big bite out of him. YUM.
the charged and creepy energy between them was just awesome and perfect
it was. Leoben gets so happy just being able to look at her. To touch her would fuel his fantasies for a millennium. But at the same time I felt fear for Kara. The last time she let real Leoben touch her was after he threatened harm to a toddler. I definitely felt more comfortable later when she was kicking the shit out of him. But on a purely shallow note - Katee/Callum? YOWZA!
And the smackdown later was YEARS of anger and payback: for New Caprica, for Maelstrom
It was awesome and I'm so glad Sam had rage against what Leoben had done to his wife. Kara's had to fight her own battles for so long, no one ever helps her. So I cheered Sam getting in Leoben's face.
But. I now have this empty place in me where I'd hoped Lee would be the one to kick Leoben in the head for what he'd done to Kara. I mean, we don't even know if Lee felt angry about what had happened to her. After her imprisonment Lee was still so irate about her leaving him that he could still only see his own pain at the time, Kara be damned. But logically I know this moment belonged to Sam. Sam is the only one we've seen Kara open up to about Leoben and about her mother and if anyone ever had a right to feel protective of Kara it's Sam. I think Lee thinks Kara's invincible and would never dare to be protective of her.
I can't put myself in her head like I normally can because she doesn't know what's going on in her head. It's disorienting!
I find myself really unsure at the end of each episode and I think a major part of that is feeling unsure about what Kara is. I want to say she's human and the same woman and I'm also trying to prepare myself for her being Aurora or something, but this not knowing is wearing on me. Maybe I'm scared to find out that this isn't Kara after all and Ron has some fantastical plot twist up his sleeve and that our girl actually died four months ago :(
I agree with the need for fun. I vote that Lee walks into his quarters on Colonial One and hears his shower running. In a shocking turn of events it turns out to be Kara! (I bet you didn't guess *g*) shower!sex ensues. Thighs pressed against glass maybe? Sound effects that could set fangirls' panties on fire maybe? But before Lee gets satisfaction a beeping noise interrupts - and the boy wakes up alone in his bed with his alarm going off. The episode could be called - That Which Will Come - because I enjoy double entendres.
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Date: 2008-05-07 08:31 pm (UTC)I'm still in shallow mode so this is definitely where my brain is at right now ;)
But. I now have this empty place in me where I'd hoped Lee would be the one to kick Leoben in the head for what he'd done to Kara.
I know! I totally thought of you and Inescapable Darkness (?), the one where Lee boxes the Leoben line to protect Kara. *sighs*
But logically I know this moment belonged to Sam. Sam is the only one we've seen Kara open up to about Leoben and about her mother and if anyone ever had a right to feel protective of Kara it's Sam.
Totally true. Sam is the one who knows all the shit that she's been through more than anyone, and he loves her so unconditionally, that it makes more sense for him to be delivering the smackdown. Even if I kind of want both Sam and Lee to get a bit of the revenge-action!
And I LOVE your Kara/Lee wet dream plot bunny. You definitely need to write that!
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Date: 2008-05-04 02:34 pm (UTC)I enjoyed both the Kara/Leoben and the Sam/Leoben interactions. CKR is frakking amazing and he always brings it out in others. I need to watch again to have any intelligent thoughts on it. :)
the fact that she IS so different, that she's so lost and ungrounded, makes her so much harder to follow as my POV character.
Agh, with you 100%. Not our same girl, not the same eyes to see through. It's bewildering. And I didn't even have my backup POV of Lee to fall back on in this one. :( But I totally agree, they need to get a handle on what she is instead of our old Kara, 'cause right now she is just all over the place. I don't begrudge her some time to figure it out, but it is making it hard for me to hang on to her as tightly as before.
Oh Chiefy!
Never fear: the United F.R.A.C. Front is ready with hugs. Someone needs to make some us Fangirls for Recently Activated Cylons icons soon...for serious
Heeeeee! Yes to icons! I'll get on that today. And we need to get on top of a hug deployment schedule to keep them all spaced out, ya know, for maximum hug effect. Ooooh, and maybe set up some time to hug that sweaty Cylon on the Demetrius 'cause poor Leoben is frakking with his head and his wifey-poo is getting all mutinied. He needs some serious huggage. On the other hand, I think the Tight is all taken care of. :D
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Date: 2008-05-07 08:34 pm (UTC)EXACTLY. So confusing right now!
And thanks again for the awesomesauce icons. You totally make my day Al :D
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Date: 2008-05-05 02:29 am (UTC)PS. I get nerd points. Oscar Wilde FTW! I need to reread The Importance of Being Earnest. Thanks a lot, now I have more things on my to do list. geez.
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Date: 2008-05-07 08:35 pm (UTC)Yay for nerd points and Wilde-isms. I have to reread/rewatch Importance of Being Earnest pretty regularly to keep my snark in good form.
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Date: 2008-05-05 03:07 pm (UTC)Wasn't he awesome? "How . . . novel." Hee! Love him!
Can I hug Helo too?
Yes! Hugs! Where were the hugs, BQ? Where were the hugs? I wanted to hug them all.
Such a frakked up cycle and yet so AWESOME.
Glad it worked for you! Really, I am glad to read reviews of squee. I think I just wanted them to move forward a bit, be more intense, something different. Leoben without true knowledge isn't as scary to me. Now the Hybrid, she scary. And Leoben and Kara aren't done yet.
And I find myself going back and forth between missing Kara-the-brash-and-ballsy and puzzling over Kara-the-confused-prophetess.
I miss her too. But
Adding space battles to the wishlist. Never thought I'd have to add that, but we actually need them to get back in vipers and kick some Cylon ass. They still do that, right?
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Date: 2008-05-07 08:39 pm (UTC)I'm still coping with the getting-kara-back-but-different thing too. I am definitely still overjoyed to have Katee all over my screen, and I'm trusting that they're doing awesome things for her future character arc, but...*sigh* I just kind of want old-school cigar-chomping, ass-kicking, snarkalicious Kara for just a little bit!
Check. Space battles have been added to the wishlist, along with more hugs. It would be so nice to have some good old-fashioned ass-kicking (outside of the cylon civil war stuff).