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Thinky thoughts about Kara, the show's mythology and other flailing over this way...

Kara/piano!man/Hera:

This was somewhat slow-paced for a Kara-centric episode, but that kinda makes sense given her 'otherness' and identity confusion throughout S4. They really emphasized the repetitiveness of both where the fleet is and where she is in her life with that scene at the beginning as CAG, and then they reinforced that when head!piano-man was telling her it was okay to just be lost sometimes. Being in limbo is kind of hard to watch, let alone process. But Katee can ACT THE FUCK out of anything, even bewildered/subdued/confused like Kara is right now. As always, I love my girl and I am totally along for the ride.

I really kind of love the mindfrak of having dreamt/imagined her father re-teaching/reconnecting her to The Song that ties everything together.

I guess I'm going to keep guessing Kara-as-hybrid then? And that's the Kara/Hera connection? Or is Hera still the only hybrid-by-birth and Kara is still just an unanswered anomaly who sees things and makes connections? Maybe Hera's drawing ARE stars, in addition to notes, and Kara will be able to find the way to their new home with them? Maybe her father was actually a Lord of Kobol (not a cylon) and Kara is a demigod? That would tie in with the Aurora stuff nicely :)

Also, I'm really okay with the Kara/Sam sickbay moments. I wish Sam would get to WAKE UP already, but I'm totally okay with Kara being there for several reasons: 1) loving Sam in her own way and wanting to make sure he's okay (y'all already know I multi-ship Kara because I think she DOES love both Lee and Sam--and Zak for that matter--in different, emotionally complex ways), and 2) because she thinks Sam might have answers for her and she NEEDS him to help explain her to herself. I love that she was playing her father's music for him!

Boomer/Chief:

I was all choked up and teary during the shared projection with Chief (I totally lost it when he found the room with 'their' kid in it). It's easy to forget how intense the Boomer/Chief romance was early on in the series because it's been so long.

But, like my poor Chiefy Chief--I WAS JUST BEING TRICKED. Not sure whether she was stealing Hera to take him back to Cavil or if it was all just to be a big 'frak you' to the humans and cylons who had screwed her over, but one way or another Roslin called it: Boomer is a master manipulator. And I just crumpled over and died a thousand angsty deaths for the Chief on that closing clip where he runs up to the dream house on Picon to find that Boomer has taken THEIR child too. He is totally frakked.

And jeez louise Athena! First having to listen/watch while Boomer fucked her husband and then the complete enraged impotence of having her child stolen (again!). Athena is deserves some pretty severe vengeance after all that.

Misc:

Enough of Adama and his ship falling apart! It's quite anvillacious at this point. I understand that Galactica the ship will probably not survive the series, and that's actually a really cool idea, but I don't need Adama staring mournfully at the walls fifty gajillion times.

Where is my Lee? I would love to see some decisive/action!Lee in the next three eps :)

What is happening with Gaius and his GUNS?

It kind of got blipped over but we now have a cylon Quorom member, Sonja. WOW!

Now that we have so much backstory on Ellen and the final five, and we've seen the fallibility of Ellen as the creator of the cylon models...it seems like there has to got to be some other, BIGGER higher power orchestrating the connectivity here. Who/what is putting the song in everyone's head and showing them visions of the opera house and pathways to planets? Is there One God, is it the Lords of Kobol--what is the next level up from the Final Five going to be in the final BSG cosmology? I am seriously on the edge of my seat about this part.

Answers would be nice! My Sam needs to wake up and explain a whole lotta shit. I can ride out the Lost-like whatthefrakkery for now but I'm going to need goooood answers soon.

And as I was telling [livejournal.com profile] wisteria_, I have always like the show for the character arcs AND the mythology AND the omgawesome space battles, so I'm more than happy to spend an hour snuggled up in Kara's and the Chief's worlds when I'm mostly certain that the next few episodes are going to be RDM's intense and mind-blowing series finale.

Date: 2009-03-02 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prncssflutterby.livejournal.com
DUDE me too!

Everything you said here about Kara and Chief I was thinking on Friday! And damn it but Sam does need to wake the frak up and explain shit to me because every week I feel like I missing some intricate connection. I loved that the song her Dad taught Kara was The SONG.... I loved it!

I know that with only like 3 episodes left the writers must be starting to tie things together and giving us more details but I was annoyed on Friday because even though I know the info must be starting to trickle into the episodes I can't put much together yet.

Maybe because it's been so long since I've seen the first 2 seasons or maybe it's because I've only seen all 4 seasons a couple times but I feel like I'm missing something but can figure it out.

And Dude, where was Lee the last few episodes. It's like he's never around much anymore. I realize it's an ensemble show and they gotta wrap up everyone's storylines but come give him something to do...

Anyhow, later hun...

Date: 2009-03-02 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boom-queen.livejournal.com
Yay--I'm glad we were on the same page :)

I know there are only three episodes left but then I think of the last two season finales and HOW MUCH insane amounts of awesome exposition, change/revelation and action were in those one or two episoes and I think it will be okay.

There has been kind of a weird flip-flopping between the really intense episodes that move the shows mythology along in huge jumps, and the slower more emotional character episodes. But like I said, I like BOTH the mythology and the characters of the show so that is cool by me :)

I love my depressing show

Date: 2009-03-02 05:05 am (UTC)
auroramama: (unknown SDB 'Hash'?)
From: [personal profile] auroramama
So I was like, "On what other show could a tired, confused woman curled up next to her comatose husband be the feel-good moment?"

I mean, I have to admire the show for letting me hate Laura (whom I love) so much during her scene with Tyrol and then having her be completely correct. Except... no, maybe there was no way at all to persuade Tyrol that it was OK to just hand her over to be executed. And Laura's patience has grown shorter with her life.

But man is that depressing. And what the hell did Galen Tyrol ever do to deserve this? Also, Cavil has so much less reason to be pissed off at Ellen and the Five than the Eights do. Imagine coming face to face with the people who apparently designed you to fall in love like falling on a knife. (Anyway, who says the Five knew how to design, say, optics that could watch a supernova *and* make the experience as sensual as The Swirl? Cavil doesn't just want to detect the amplitude of light at various wavelengths, he wants it to feel totally cool. The Hybrids may have something like that, but it ought to make Cavil think twice about the fact that they're all insane.

Re: I love my depressing show

Date: 2009-03-02 05:32 am (UTC)
ext_10249: (kara/sam)
From: [identity profile] nicole-anell.livejournal.com
"On what other show could a tired, confused woman curled up next to her comatose husband be the feel-good moment?"
HA! That's so true.

Re: I love my depressing show

Date: 2009-03-02 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boom-queen.livejournal.com
haha, that is so damn true!

BSG puts us all through the ringer so much that the most heartbreaking moments can be beautiful and uplifting!

On the one hand, I don't think Galen deserves this kind of betrayal AT ALL. The poor guy has been in love with this woman for forever and she dangles a gorgeous vision of love and domestic bliss in front of him. BUT. He was willing to just kill a random Eight and lie/sneak to get her off the ship, so he's not exactly 100% innocent either.

I'm really curious about ship-hybrids now after seeing the preview. Maybe we'll get more insight into why they were created and what they mean?

Date: 2009-03-02 05:30 am (UTC)
ext_10249: (kara/sam)
From: [identity profile] nicole-anell.livejournal.com
Crazy admission: Every time there's a "Kara-centric" episode like this, I feel like I might not like it, just because how many times can she have an existential/parental crisis without repeating herself? And then I watch it and Katee Sackhoff *totally sucks me in* all over again.

Boomer is a master manipulator.
Am I the only one kind of pissed off about this? I still don't get what Roslin was talking about -- I don't remember Boomer ever before "preying on emotions" or manipulating anyone the way Athena did. (And I love Athena like crazy, and I fully support her getting stabby on the whole world for what happened to her in this ep, but SHE WAS THE SHARON WHO LIED AND MANIPULATED PEOPLE. Boomer was the puppet Sharon who never knew what she was doing and got frakked over by the universe, at least in the time Adama/Roslin knew her.)

I just think it's weird they're retconning her as this always-manipulative bitch and not the walking tragedy we saw in season one. Honestly, Adama and Roslin had *no reason* to be mad at Boomer while they're forgiving and trusting the rebels left and right. But now her evilness in this episode made their attitude look justified. [/rant]

It kind of got blipped over but we now have a cylon Quorom member, Sonja. WOW!
The blip was all I needed to completely freak out. OF COURSE IT'S ONE OF MY GIRLS. <3 Awesome. I loved Lee being all diplomatic with her too.

Date: 2009-03-02 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boom-queen.livejournal.com
True, Kara is quite the Queen of Parental Issues, but they've all worked for me so far. The girl can ride her guilt for hours, and if it were any other actress besides Katee that would probably get old for me, but Katee is so damn amazing.

I don't remember Boomer ever before "preying on emotions" or manipulating anyone the way Athena did.

Dude, you're totally right! I have to admit to completely conflating the two because of the way Roslin phrased it. Maybe the writers were trying to say that that's what the Eight model does, manipulate feelings? But even then that wouldn't be relevant to the original Boomer because she was seriously fucked over in S1. Maybe they're arguing that her experiences with rejection by humans on New Caprica--and her subsequent falling in with Cavil which I still HATE--are now the guiding force in her motivation?

Your ranting is totally justified the more I think about it!

Date: 2009-03-02 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabaceanbabe.livejournal.com
Maybe it's more that Roslin sees all Eights the same way and doesn't differentiate between Athena and Boomer...?

Date: 2009-03-02 05:39 pm (UTC)
ext_10249: (snarkses with wolves)
From: [identity profile] nicole-anell.livejournal.com
I could believe that from Roslin definitely. *nod* It just bugs that she was proven right.

Date: 2009-03-02 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] einaphets.livejournal.com
That makes me wonder if it's not ALL the Eights that are 'wacky' but just Boomer. Perhaps it was Boomer incognito that hooked up with Gaeta in the webisodes. She certainly seems to have a siren's call down pat.

Date: 2009-03-02 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] einaphets.livejournal.com
re:Boomer, I get what you're saying. I've never seen her as a manipulator but I definitely think she's bitter, and rightfully so. It seemed totally plausible that she'd abandon Cavil and go back to Galactica. Then WHAM, a doublecross. I go back to the epi where Athena had to commit suicide in order to go back through resurrection and reclaim Hera. Boomer was present and pouty back then about Hera. Maybe she thinks of Hera as hers in some way?

Date: 2009-03-02 06:55 pm (UTC)
ext_10249: (cylons!!)
From: [identity profile] nicole-anell.livejournal.com
I definitely think Boomer has a LOT of bitterness about Athena and Hera, that she basically got Boomer's old/deserved life. (I thought it was especially interesting that she gave herself and Tyrol an imaginary daughter.) And Hera refusing to bond with her in season three really seemed to push her off the deep end.

I guess it's not that I have a problem with Boomer being the Bad Sharon Now (although I also would've believed in her redemption a couple of weeks ago) and I could believe her doing all these things. I just also thought it was sad nobody was willing to give her a second chance.

Date: 2009-03-02 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabaceanbabe.livejournal.com
Dude. I just read an awesome theory that it wasn't Kara's Dad at all, but that it was Sam, projecting at her from his coma, and that it started when Cottle told her she had to move on with her life. :D

Date: 2009-03-02 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] einaphets.livejournal.com
Interesting! But have the cylons projected anyone but themselves into a ... well ... projection?

I'm thinking now that head!characters are projections from models of the type being projected, i.e. a Six is projecting into Gauis. But then again that doesn't explain how Gauis projected into Six.

I've wondered before if Gauis and Kara are siblings. NO I do not want that to happen but they seem to have parallels through the whole story.

Date: 2009-03-02 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] einaphets.livejournal.com
I enjoyed the Kara moments as always but the Boomer stuff just blew me away. And for once it wasn't a Kara ship that was getting all trashed on! Athena had to watch the whole thing! That is so frakked up, yo! Arrgh! So bad. I was laughing/screaming/yelling at the tv, half hiding my eyes through the whole thing. lmao

What happened with the cylons leaving Galactica anyway?

I'm still thinking Kara is actually the first hybrid as well with Daniel as her father. I love the idea that she ends up being the first hybrid. Which begs the question do hybrids download and if so, how? When I saw the pic that Hera "Whatever happened to Baby Jane" Agathon did, I immediately thought it was a star map. I didn't even make a connection to musical notes.

It's getting so good! I can't believe it's almost over. *sniff*

Date: 2009-03-03 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] latteaddict.livejournal.com
what is the next level up from the Final Five going to be in the final BSG cosmology? I am seriously on the edge of my seat about this part.

*hee* Kara answered that herself way back in season one "call me god."

I'm with you on everything. I actually got choked up for Chief/Boomer and Chief running through the empty house. My heart broke for the Agathons! Katee totally did act the crap out of all her scenes *snugs her* and I'm with you on the chilling and enjoying the Kara/Sam scenes. We've been enjoying the benefits of multi-shipping for a while now. It gives you so much more to enjoy and twice the pretty.

I like your idea about Hera's music actually being a star map. Quite cool.

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